diff --git a/keyserver/src/creators/thread-creator.js b/keyserver/src/creators/thread-creator.js
--- a/keyserver/src/creators/thread-creator.js
+++ b/keyserver/src/creators/thread-creator.js
@@ -41,6 +41,7 @@
 import {
   determineThreadAncestry,
   personalThreadQuery,
+  determineThreadAncestryForPossibleMemberResolution,
 } from '../fetchers/thread-fetchers.js';
 import {
   checkThreadPermission,
@@ -161,7 +162,11 @@
   );
 
   const validateMembersPromise = (async () => {
-    const threadAncestry = await determineThreadAncestryPromise;
+    const threadAncestry =
+      await determineThreadAncestryForPossibleMemberResolution(
+        parentThreadID,
+        threadType,
+      );
     const defaultRolePermissions = getRolePermissionBlobs(threadType).Members;
     const { initialMemberIDs, ghostMemberIDs } = await validateCandidateMembers(
       viewer,
@@ -174,6 +179,7 @@
         parentThreadID,
         containingThreadID: threadAncestry.containingThreadID,
         defaultRolePermissions,
+        communityID: threadAncestry.community,
       },
       { requireRelationship: !shouldCreateRelationships },
     );
diff --git a/keyserver/src/fetchers/thread-fetchers.js b/keyserver/src/fetchers/thread-fetchers.js
--- a/keyserver/src/fetchers/thread-fetchers.js
+++ b/keyserver/src/fetchers/thread-fetchers.js
@@ -2,6 +2,7 @@
 
 import invariant from 'invariant';
 
+import genesis from 'lib/facts/genesis.js';
 import { specialRoles } from 'lib/permissions/special-roles.js';
 import { getAllThreadPermissions } from 'lib/permissions/thread-permissions.js';
 import {
@@ -382,6 +383,21 @@
   return { containingThreadID, community, depth };
 }
 
+async function determineThreadAncestryForPossibleMemberResolution(
+  parentThreadID: ?string,
+  threadType: ThreadType,
+): Promise<ThreadAncestry> {
+  const { containingThreadID, community, depth } =
+    await determineThreadAncestry(parentThreadID, threadType);
+
+  let resolvedContainingThreadID = containingThreadID;
+  if (resolvedContainingThreadID === genesis().id) {
+    resolvedContainingThreadID =
+      parentThreadID === genesis().id ? null : parentThreadID;
+  }
+  return { containingThreadID: resolvedContainingThreadID, community, depth };
+}
+
 function personalThreadQuery(
   firstMemberID: string,
   secondMemberID: string,
@@ -442,6 +458,7 @@
   verifyThreadIDs,
   verifyThreadID,
   determineThreadAncestry,
+  determineThreadAncestryForPossibleMemberResolution,
   personalThreadQuery,
   fetchPersonalThreadID,
   serverThreadInfoFromMessageInfo,
diff --git a/keyserver/src/fetchers/thread-permission-fetchers.js b/keyserver/src/fetchers/thread-permission-fetchers.js
--- a/keyserver/src/fetchers/thread-permission-fetchers.js
+++ b/keyserver/src/fetchers/thread-permission-fetchers.js
@@ -274,6 +274,7 @@
   +parentThreadID: ?string,
   +containingThreadID: ?string,
   +defaultRolePermissions: ThreadRolePermissionsBlob,
+  +communityID: ?string,
 };
 type ValidateCandidateMembersOptions = { +requireRelationship?: boolean };
 async function validateCandidateMembers(
@@ -370,14 +371,17 @@
       continue;
     }
     const permissionsFromParent = parentPermissions[memberID];
-    if (memberOfContainingThread.get(memberID) === 'non-member') {
+    if (
+      memberOfContainingThread.get(memberID) === 'non-member' &&
+      (params.communityID !== genesis().id ||
+        (relationshipStatus !== userRelationshipStatus.FRIEND &&
+          requireRelationship))
+    ) {
       ignoreMembers.add(memberID);
       continue;
     }
-    const isParentThreadGenesis = params.parentThreadID === genesis().id;
     if (
-      (memberOfContainingThread.get(memberID) === 'no-containing-thread' ||
-        isParentThreadGenesis) &&
+      memberOfContainingThread.get(memberID) === 'no-containing-thread' &&
       relationshipStatus !== userRelationshipStatus.FRIEND &&
       requireRelationship
     ) {
diff --git a/keyserver/src/updaters/thread-updaters.js b/keyserver/src/updaters/thread-updaters.js
--- a/keyserver/src/updaters/thread-updaters.js
+++ b/keyserver/src/updaters/thread-updaters.js
@@ -53,6 +53,7 @@
   fetchServerThreadInfos,
   determineThreadAncestry,
   rawThreadInfosFromServerThreadInfos,
+  determineThreadAncestryForPossibleMemberResolution,
 } from '../fetchers/thread-fetchers.js';
 import {
   checkThreadPermission,
@@ -583,7 +584,10 @@
 
     const [defaultRolePermissions, nextThreadAncestry] = await Promise.all([
       defaultRolePermissionsPromise,
-      determineThreadAncestryPromise,
+      determineThreadAncestryForPossibleMemberResolution(
+        nextParentThreadID,
+        nextThreadType,
+      ),
     ]);
 
     const { newMemberIDs: validatedIDs } = await validateCandidateMembers(
@@ -594,6 +598,7 @@
         parentThreadID: nextParentThreadID,
         containingThreadID: nextThreadAncestry.containingThreadID,
         defaultRolePermissions,
+        communityID: nextThreadAncestry.community,
       },
       { requireRelationship: !forceAddMembers },
     );